Frayed blade because of it's versatile moves and range option makes dealing with multiple people a lot easier and black blade for the pure AR to kill squishier phantoms quickly. Frayed Blade is a really good weapon, but it does not make other katanas obselete.The chaos blade probably has more damage on a high dex build since the damage on the frayed blade is split. People just want to use the cool stuff. Skill: Hold Assume a holding stance in which a normal attack sends a shockwave along the earth, and a strong attack commences a series of slashes. Other blades like the uchigatana and the black blade can be buffed while the frayed blade cannot. Still, the only occasion you're going to be using the katana (ideally) is for chasedowns, since they have naturally low AR and a moveset horribly geared for defense. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. I'm not even kidding, none of those stat spreads are any good at all. Onikri and Ubadachi: Deals good damage if you land the L1s and the WA has hyperarmor. I invested some points in fai for DMB to apply to buffable weapons. 40-50 dex is usually where you wanna head with it. Frayed Blade Onikiri and Ubadachi Uchigatana Washing Pole Reapers Friede's Great Scythe Great Corvian Scythe Great Scythe Pontiff Knight Great Scythe Arstor's Spear Dragonslayer Spear Dragonslayer Swordspear Drang Twinspears Follower Javelin Four-Pronged … I see alot of discussion on which one is the best and why and I guess I just don't have the same outlook as most do when it comes to comparisons . .. Without its sheath, it will soon crumble into nothing. I was really looking forward to it since it has nice damaga, a scalin in dexterity and additional dark damage. Agreed , Forgot about the washing pole though thanks !! 5. This is a player-created Build for Dark Souls. Bloodlust - See chaos blade, but 10x worse First and foremost it's a DEX weapon, meaning stack dex. Some say 60 Dex. Uchigatana, Black Blade & Chaos blade all have the same parry frames, frame 8.0 - 16.1 @60fps. Uchigatana, Black Blade & Chaos blade all have the same parry frames, frame 8.0 - 16.1 @60fps. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, While you were out playing PvP, I studied the blade. I have not seen any other katanas since the ringed city dropped. Been using Uchi Sharp, +10, with 40 Dex and about 30 in luck at the moment, STR is about 20 or so, can't remember. Build Name: Chaos Blade Build; Build Level: 125; Build Focus: PvP; Build Main Stats: Vit/Dex; Link … With a dark infused black blade on a dedicated build I can take out phantoms really fast in invasions and sorta pseudo combo them like a straight sword with the rolling thrust. Kind of unrelated, but I think katanas aren't that good if you use them like you "should be" using them, which is 2-handing. I do love my BB immensely especially on a fastroll build , 60 dex and human pine resin is no joke either . LordSimmons 3 years ago #1. that's not to say they can't work vice verse ofcourse. Main article: Weapon Types (Dark Souls III) Katanas are a weapon type in Dark Souls III. I prefer chaos blade over uchi on a pure Dex build as it gets more AR and the self damage is negated with blessed caestus and sun ring. Found in the Untended Graves, uphill the left path before entering the remains of Firelink Shrine, on the same spot where the Sword Master was encountered in the Cemetery of Ash. If you want the range advantage (which is very useful in 1v1s against hyper armor) then you have to give up the guaranteed 2 hits. Some say 40 Dex, 30 Str. Battle Tested. That's why the washing pole lacks an R1 combo now. Black Blade out-ARs the Uchi with a Refined Gem, also can be buffed and has the same WA. Leaks through shields also. The once-exquisite blade is now stained black, and frayed at the hilt. I pull out the washing pole when I need to beat someone with hyper armor whiffing out R1's, Frayed Blade is amazing to corner trap someone where you can constantly WA R2 their panic rolls against a wall etc etc, and the "normal" sized katanas are all decent all around just depends on your build which you want to use. For other uses, see Katanasand Katanas (Dark Souls II). The Chaos Blade is a katana in Dark Souls III. I'd still take the frayed blade over both of them just because the WA R1 can space easily from a neutral attack (which all katanas have issues with) and the WA R2 is nice bleed pressure for higher net damages. Since probably not going full on with dex, I'm just curious if anyone has any suggestions. Found in the Catacombs of Carthus, dropped by the Mimic at the end of the upper ledge surrounding the Demon, near the entrance to the Smouldering Lake. WP has 55 Def while BB has 50 , WP and BB both have 38 stability . If you want help making your own build, you can consult this useful page on how to make a build by Blaine.. Regular. ... and the frayed blade is good, but you don't get the typical katana weapon arts which I personally like the regular one better. Chaos Blade [DKS3 Wiki] Comments posted to our Dark Souls 3 Wiki 9 . Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Now, I love this thing in PVP. Black Blade is a Weapon in Dark Souls 3.. A short katana wielded by the swordsman and distinguished guest of High Lord Wolnir. That's not a katana problem, that's a game problem. Each weapon can be categorized into a weapon category, grouping weapons with similar attack styles. They both have the best defensiveness of all the katanas, Next let's compare 2 katanas that I find both fundamentally opposite from each other . List of Equipment with Special Effects And I believe bloodlust got buffed recently. The AR on FB(469) is top notch on it's own but can't be buffed and requires successive hits to proc bleed . In invasions just don't use it as a main weapon. Been playing since release and I've used them all and can pretty much tell you how you use them is how effective they're gonna be . I think Washing Pole and chaosblade shine in 1v1's, Frayed Blade and blackblade shine in invasions. I like the Frayed Blade a bit better than the Chaos Blade. For other uses, see Weapons (disambiguation). Everyone has different stats and ultimately does more damage than I can at the same stats so I just don't understand it. Dark Souls 3 weapons attack calculator, additional effects, spell buff, requirements and scaling. Uchigatana - can be buffed with resin and infused. All I know is on my current playthrough I'm aiming for the Frayed. Frayed blade WA's are fabulous though. User Info: LordSimmons. For … For comparison, Caetus is 8.1 - 16.3, however it has an extra 2 frame recovery time (30 vs 28.1) and the katanas get a damage absorption bonus while using the parry, making them a little safer to use I've no idea why, that's rather ridiculous. Press J to jump to the feed. Weapons That Have Hold. Respectively all have no more then 18 AR difference from each other . In duels, yes, it'll preform well just because it can pressure so easily. Stat wise everything is sharp infused grade +10 at 18s/60d .... so let's begin . It’s just overwhelms the competition. It … They're a dex weapon of course, but even at 60 Dex I wasn't doing as much damage as Anri's SS. Onikiri and Ubadachi is still pretty solid. Wvubeerman. And it looks better lmao. So many weapons outclass and outdamage the Katanas and I simply can't find a build that makes them work. The main issue is it's heavy. The game frontloads a lot of lighter dex weapons so you have to hang in there if you want, say, a GS that scales well with dex. I added Llyods sword ring. The Uchigatana is a katana in Dark Souls. I miss the Blacksteel Katana from DS2. It's the only katana with a rolling thrust attack . Chaos Blade all the way. Uchi/412 , WP/420 , BB/430 . When comparing damage and the perks each one has it's like night and day . Uchigatana; Washing Pole; Black Blade; Chaos Blade; Frayed Blade . A: Washing Pole: Amazing all around EXCEPT no two hit guarantee. In those pressuring situations, 1% damage per hit means next to nothing (as well as technically be only 1/8% of your total health pool because of estus), while the length is way more important for securing the final hit. The Frayed Blade is a soul-transposed katana in Dark Souls III: The Ringed City. I recently got this weapon after finally beating Midir. With that in mind, an optimal build for the Frayed Blade wants to be at a level range where 40 dex is a sufficient investment in offensive power. people are more inclined to use the frayed blade because it is the only unique katana in the game, when it comes to moveset. Frayed blade - running R1, at night. It’s better than all the other katanas on its own, it’s better than all the other katanas when paired with a weapon like estoc. Most other katanas share the same WA and moveset, with the exception of bloodlust( which is apparently shit now). there are only casuals on reddit i see... Yeah the washing poles running R1 is my favorite move in this game, easiest to Parry and punish people for using it. In my opinion the Chaos blade is the superior invasion weapon to the black blade. Damage isn't everything, katanas have unique moves, they can parry, they have a good running r1 for chasedowns, and they have an excellent weapon art. Dark Drift and Frayed Blade. Theres literally no reason for the bloodlust to exist. Some say 40 Dex, 40 Str, 30-40 Luck. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. Should i go for 40 dex and 40 luck ? Frayed Blades lack of a parry can be annoying as pulling out a caestus usually just tips people off to you wanting a parry. I thought they buffed it? from someone who used a lot of the katanas for a long time I can say personally, Washing is long and can outspace a lot of weapons, so its the meta katana even if it does not combo 2 r1, Uchi can be buffed and even if the weapons art is not flashy, its really good the lunge is solid and have better tracking tan flayed blade WA, O&U can deal high damage with L1 with extra foward momentum + dangerous WA, also I'm messing with them with a int/dex build since with cristal they scale S on int and its nice to pierce shields, the others ones are not really worth it comparing to other katanas(unless for fashion and personal preference, black blade looks cool), Edit:forgot chaos blade, really good damage on dex build, the self damage is not really a big deal, but some times it adds up and can kill you, also longer than uchi and the stardard WA that I love. Sadly, the Chaos Blade has less AR than the rest of my katanas. Anonymous. This. With AR not being much of a comparison let's look at how they REALLY compare with each other mainly in terms of functionality. It’s so long and does a high amount of damage, which allows it to make use of the katanas best move, running r1. I can never really bring myself to use weapons that I see super commonly in the meta so I haven't tried it out myself yet but I still don't see a reason to pick any of the katanas over it. Slice'em and dice'em . Just slap a sharp gem on the winblades, cast DMB and watch enemies and other players just vaporize. Add Leo ring and the AR is potentially greater then the frayed blade. The light attack is a Nukiuchi attack, a wide swing that is excellent for hitting several enemies at once. Chaos Blade .... it's like uchi but better scaling and better bleed potential but can't be buffed ... it also hurts you . Goddamnit from. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. This shiny black blade is thick, but shorter than the typical katana. chevalierknight 4 years ago #6. Washing pole has greater reach and i think better running R1's, which is what katanas are famous for. Many Katanas have a weapon skill that allows them to Parry or perform a sweeping slash. Posted by 2 years ago. Would 40 dex be enough for frayed blade? It's truly a beast in the arena. Would obviously take uchi or black blade on a dark build though. The other katanas are not as "cool" but they are still useful. I'd say the S scaling is its redeeming quality but that went away when TRC and Frayed Blade came into the fold . It doesn't even have any combos. It's good for as a support weapon in one hand if I was using a spell like Gnaw to support a specific playstyle . Joined: Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:26 am. For comparison, Caetus is 8.1 - 16.3, however it has an extra 2 frame recovery time (30 vs 28.1) and the katanas get a damage absorption bonus while using the parry, making them a little safer to use (And it's great for fashionsouls). If like a lot of katana players, you plan to use them to running attack, run away, and repeat that same process, the Washing Pole is your best friend. And the WA is a great mixup for your moves. The weapon art doesn't obliterate people with Carthus Rouge anymore, but it's still potent, and R1 combos into L1 for pretty high damage. I do MORE damage PER SWING with Anri's Straight Sword R1 at +5 than I do with the Uchi R1, AND I can get in multiple hits in with Anri compared to the 3 or 4 with the Uchi. Darkdrift is great for low stamina-builds. Good rolling and running attacks but doesn't excel at either, The Washing Pole with its range dominates with running and stationary attacks. DD has the lowest AR(364) but can be buffed and ignores defense , also it has the only Thrust WA of all the Katanas . Blackblade is actually up there. Frayed Blade PvP On A BLEED & DEX Build...Is It Better? I do like some unbuffable weapons like frayed blade so im considering going 60 dex instead and forgetting about fai. The Uchi is the most balanced . Sharp Uchigatana Sharp Sellsword Twinblades Sharp Lothric Knight Long Spear Sharp Astora Greatsword (As a sidenote, on NG+ playthroughs I also add in the Onikiri and Ubadachi and the Frayed Blade, but those appear very late in your adventure) 0. Nobody has a "for the Uchi, this build. Unlike sharp infused weapons (the Uchigatana, for instance) the Frayed Blade gains little damage from 40-99 dex (AR @ 40 dex = 454, AR @ 80 dex = 490). Washing pole still reaches miles, chaos blade has lots of damage, And Darkdrift! User Info: chevalierknight. It'll have S scaling for dexterity when fully upgraded, so a few STR points for the requirement and full dexterity is very viable with it. Yes, netcode makes them worse. A community dedicated to everything about Dark Souls 3. The Black Blade with it's inverted strong attacks gives it the best rolling attacks and because of this also has the best combos. #8. Check out my official Merch Store! New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Cookies help us deliver our Services. Punishes rolling back also. They have a much better 1-handed moveset with R1's that come out slightly faster and slightly longer. 1 Availability 2 Characteristics 3 Moveset 4 Upgrades 5 Notes 6 Gallery Obtained by transposing the Soul of Darkeater Midir with Ludleth of Courland for 5,000 souls. How is bloodlust shit? Onikiri does a lot of damage and has an R1 L1 true combo along with the L2 L1, and the L2 is pretty situational now that they nerfed it (imo they overnerfed it but it was pretty dumb before). You can't infuse Chaos Blade.That said, I've using it since I got it, it's my favourite weapon by far. The uchigatana has a couple valid ways of use. Basically they are all good for different situations. So lets start with the 3 basic Katanas .... Uchigatana , Washing Pole and Black Blade . If you have killed the 3 mages and the guard, i would highly, highly recommend you go Human form, heal up, and summon the jester. I'm not a huge katana fan either, but I disagree. The Uchi will serve you well in pvp, if you're interested in that, … Frayed Blade vs Chaos Blade Comparison - Dark Souls 3 QuantumMercury. That range and speed being enchantable is lethal, and it has only about 30 AR less than an Uchigatana. Most are capable of strong sweeping slash attacks as well as thrusts. The washing pole has far superior range. There are many different weapons to be found in Dark Souls III. Uchigatana - Most balanced running R1. They are all good, and may the person who said a +15 Washing Pole is crap encounter me some times. The uchi and chaos blade are work horses and will see you through anything. At 60dex the Chaos is better, and at 70dex the black blade is 1AR higher. You can't buff it so no. With WA's DD and FB's R1 WA have the same range but DD alters the player to different positions while FB is the only katana that doesn't propel a character , meaning it's the only katana WA that keeps you stationary . Head to Harvest Valley and save at the bonfire across the poison. Special effect of the weapon is that it slightly damages you too with every hit. Frayed Blade is a really good weapon, but it does not make other katanas obselete.The chaos blade probably has more damage on a high dex build since the damage on the frayed blade is split. Archived. The Black Blade and Uchigatana are the best until you find Onikiri and Ubadachi. Nope. But for invasions, it's functionally just an eastern spear that doesn't really have the AR or neutral attacks to support itself aside from in chasedowns. Katanas are characterized by their quick slashing and thrusting dashing attacks. I would miss the weapon buffs tho, 40 is the minimum , I'd recommend 60 though or reallocate those Fth stats into luck for the quicker bleed proc. It really all comes down to which move set you prefer, unless of course you decide to go for the Washing Pole. It further increases the DEX stacking, making your 40-50 dex give even more attack damage. Washing pole is still the best. (The Ringed City) - … Lot of telegraphing though. But same with everything else in the game. I view Bloodlust like I view ..... lets say Onyx Blade . You forgot to mention that the Washing Pole had it's ability to R1R1 combo taken away so that's a pretty big factor that sets it apart from other katanas now too. It's excellent as a secondary on a strength build. With a dark infused black blade on a dedicated build I can take out phantoms really fast in invasions and sorta pseudo combo them like a straight sword with the rolling thrust. Onikiri and Ubadachi - well what can I really say about these as I can't really compare them to anything . Frayed Blade is a Weapon in Dark Souls 3.It is part of The Ringed City.. A dragon weapon symbolizing Darkeater Midir. Eh, in duels maybe. Bleed is so inconsitent when using the Chaos Blade that I switched to due to the better scaling, even with 30+ luck. Secondly get a Sharp stone, and make it a SHARP uchigatana. Chaos Blade - running R1's make you kill yourself. A community dedicated to everything about Dark Souls 3. Thouuugh, Washing Poke doesnt combo 2 R1's, so there's that. For the Frayed this build.". The washing pole has far superior range. Frayed Blade - any tips or is it not that good for PVE? It's non-buffable, doesnt have substantially better bleed than any other katana, is as short as the black blade, and does less damage than a max chaos or uchi for a dex build, or a max black blade for a quality build. None of the stat combinations you mentioned are good. Hold is a Skill in Dark Souls 3.. Dark Drift - invisible running R1. I don't get Katanas in this game. I get 492 AR on the WP unbuffed. The Frayed Blade really hits it's stride right at 40 dex. Used by the Sword Master instead of the Uchigatana when the Sword Master is summoned at Untended Graves. Only paired katana which also means it's the only one without any defensive measures , these are for pure damage baby. My main build is a 75 DEX with WP and FB. Washing pole actually has the longest parry window, 8.0 - 16.3 @60fps. Defensive wise with the lowest stat requirement the Uchi has the lowest physical defense 45 and stability 33 . Depending on which katana you're using, each one is gonna have their own pros and cons . For the CB, this build. Black Blade - more powerful but shorter running R1. Washing pole actually has the longest parry window, 8.0 - 16.3 @60fps. Other blades like the uchigatana and the black blade can be buffed while the frayed blade cannot. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. Frayed Blade PvP Weapon Analysis Part 1 @ SL125 - Dark Souls 3 … better running r1? I can or almost 1 shot parry high tier defensive builds . Frayed blade because of it's versatile moves and range option makes dealing with multiple people a lot easier and black blade for the pure AR to kill squishier phantoms quickly. Uchigatana Build worth it late game? It's just that all the weebs use the frayed blade. Weapon Art is parrying as for any Katana except Bloodlust. 1 Melee weapons 1.1 Straight Blades 1.1.1 Daggers 1.1.2 Straight Swords 1.1.3 Greatswords 1.1.4 Ultra Greatswords 1.2 Curved Blades 1.2.1 Curved … Frayed Blade has split damage with like 80 dark, but that's actually quite helpful most of the time I feel.
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